Submissive Women Speak

PRESENTS...

Conversations With
Submissives,
a Few Dominants,
and the Occasional
Critic

 

Since we introduced the Submissive Women Speak website, many people have written us with questions, and we answer all we can. While the majority of these people are submissive women, we hear from a surprising number of dominants of both sexes, as well as from curious or critical people of more conventional sexual interests. No matter who writes the letters, they often raise questions or issues that many submissive women wonder about. When we feel that these exchanges will be of interest or assistance to many submissive women, we post them here. To protect our correspondents, all personal details--including names, professions, and locations--have been changed or deleted.

A Conversation With Ann

This link leads to a transcript of an email conversation we had with a submissive woman who contacted us with some questions and musings about submission. New submissives who encounter the S&M Scene via message boards, play parties, chat rooms, munches, and other social activities of the S&M subculture will find this document to be of special interest.

A Conversation With Betsy

"Betsy" wrote us to ask where she can find information about how to "improve" herself as a submissive, as her master has assigned her this task. This link leads to a brief paraphrase of her questions and our full response.

A Conversation With Catherine

"Catherine" posted a heart-rending message to a BDSM news group about the callous way in which a "dominant" told her he did not care about her because he never gets emotionally involved with his submissives, who are, after all, easily replaced. Catherine drew the wrong conclusions from this experience, and another submissive, responding to her, attempted to give her a more realistic perspective.

A Conversation With Dana

"Dana's" problem is the one we hear most frequently about from the submissive women who write us: what to do when one's husband or longterm partner has no interest in dominance and submission. The answer to this question is never easy and is seldom pleasant to hear, but it is essential for a woman in this situation to understand her circumstances and options clearly so that she can make the choice that is best for her. Readers who are interested in this issue should also see our in-depth conversation with Lori, below.

A Conversation With Edward

"Edward," a man who believes himself to be a dominant, read a submissive's personal ad, responded to it, didn't like her reply, and wrote Jon, her mentor, to complain about it. We reproduce this brief exchange here, because Edward exemplifies a sort of individual, common on the nets, who considers himself to be "dominant" but who is utterly clueless about submissives and about the nature of power exchange. Some inexperienced submissive women, upon encountering such an idiot, assume that he has to be obeyed or at least respected because "this is the way dominants are." We hope, in publishing our response to him, to provide such women with an example of how they actually ought to respond to this sort of fool. He deserves no better than this.

A Conversation With Gina

"Gina" is a married woman who will soon divorce her husband in order to be able to live with her dominant, whom she met in a chat room and whom she sees in real life about once a week. She is very troubled by the fact that, despite an agreement with him that their relationship would be monogamous, her dominant has now told her that if she is a "true submissive," she will accept the idea that it is his right to have another submissive if he wants to. Many submissive women experience jealousy, anxiety, and hurt at the reality or even, as in Gina's case, at the potential of having to "share" their masters with other submissives. These are sensitive and potentially disastrous situations, ones which we have discussed with many submissives in email. Our letter to Gina discusses the essential points which a submissive woman in this situation must consider.

A Conversation With Henry

Jon had several email conversations with "Traci," Henry's wife, when, at her request, "Henry" wrote us. Henry practiced on Traci a sort of on-again, off-again style of dominance that seems very common among men who have some dominant feelings but who lack experience and who often have limited dominant needs. When things were good, Henry was everything Traci dreamed of in a master. When the going got rough, however, Henry withdrew emotionally, had a screaming match with Traci, or otherwise took a time out from being the controlling party in the relationship. Naturally, this inconsistent behavior disturbed Traci and made her wonder if he were capable of being consistently dominant with her. In this exchange, Jon describes to Henry the kinds of questions he must ask himself to determine what he wants from his relationship with Traci and whether his needs are compatible with hers.

Conversations With Inez and Ingrid

Both of these brief email exchanges deal with the issue of where a sadomasochist can go to find professional counseling or therapy and what to think about before he or she does so. We briefly discuss the hard realities of therapy for kinky people, particularly the attitudes that conventional therapists have toward sadomasochism and how those attitudes can affect the person seeking help.

A Conversation With Jamila

"Jamila" is a woman with a Middle Eastern heritage who is concerned about how pro-submission articles like Polly's "Violence in the Garden" may be setting back the movement for women's rights, especially in countries in the Middle East, where these rights largely have yet to be achieved. In this conversation, Polly responds in detail to Jamila's critical views about submissiveness while contesting Jamila's primary thesis: that submissives like Polly should not choose to live within power-exchange relationships since doing so is a self-indulgent act that sets all women back.

Conversations With Kate

One of the prerequisites of successful power-exchange relationships, a necessity understood by few in the S&M Scene, is that a dominant, in taking on a submissive partner, also takes on responsibility for her. When he thinks, he thinks for two; when he makes decisions, he makes them for two, not just for himself; and when he gets irrationally angry, he does far more damage to someone who is emotionally dependent on him than to someone who is his power equal. Many people with dominant inclinations seem unable to comprehend or to deal with this basic fact. They want someone to order around when it is convenient, but when it comes to being adult, responsible, mature, thinking for two, and doing the hard work of a power-exchange relationship, they are utterly at sea. In this email exchange, we tell "Kate", a submissive who has run into a prime example of such a person, how to deal with her unfortunate situation.

An Extended Conversation With Lori

In the conversation with Dana, above, we discuss the basic issues which a submissive woman with a partner with conventional sexual needs must consider. In this extensive email exchange with "Lori," we talk about many of these same issues, plus a few others, in detail. Like Dana, Lori wrote us for advice about how to deal with living with a husband who is uninterested in power exchange. In our replies to her we describe her options in detail and provide her with feedback on what is likely and what is not likely to happen in a situation like hers.

A Conversation With Molly

Although "Molly's" letters to us cannot be reproduced here, Polly's response to her may be interesting to readers for two reasons. The first part of Polly's letter dispels some common myths about D&S relationships. The second part discusses the essential differences between absolute and non-absolute power-exchange relationships in the context of helping someone to decide which type is best for her.

A Conversation With Nancy

In this message to a mailing list for submissive women, Polly states, "I've noticed that at the beginning of a D&S relationship, the submissive and the dominant--especially if they are both relatively inexperienced--are often both trying to impress each other with how well they perform in their roles: how great a dominant he is, how deep and obedient a submissive she is." When a couple feels this way, which Polly calls their "Sir Steven and O" phase, they are out of touch with the realities of power-exchange relationships, inasmuch as they expect theirs to be perfect. Polly offers suggestions to "Nancy" in this piece on how to get some perspective back, partially through realizing that "just because you become someone's submissive or slave doesn't mean that you instantly lose all the ordinary assertive self-interest that has built up over a lifetime and that serves you quite well in the world at large." Learning to balance this strong, natural, and habitual self-interest with the requirements of slavery is a lifelong task, but Polly gives some pointers on where both submissives and their dominants can begin.

An (Open) Private Letter to a Dominant

Jon wrote this letter some time ago to the dominant partner of a friend of ours. Even though both people were seriously committed to an absolute power exchange, the relationship was close to ending because of a misunderstanding that is very common among inexperienced dominants: the ideas that submissiveness and passivity are the same thing or at least are closely related and that aggressiveness and resistance are proof that a person is not submissive. We've changed the names and include the letter here in the hope that it will help other sincere but inexperienced dominant men to avoid this often-calamitous misunderstanding. A number of months later, many things had happened to our submissive friend and her dominant. At "Zoe's" request, Jon wrote a second and final letter to her "master." While there was no happy ending to their relationship, we hope that the publication of these letters, which describe what is actually a quite common situation, can help other couples to avoid a similar tragedy.

 

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